April 29, 2012

Auto Bank Builder

Have a look at this latest offering from John Duncan.

I’ve been running Auto Bank Builder since last week and it seems to do exactly what it’s supposed to do, namely build your bank on auto pilot.

I started with a £300 bank, and set it to make me a nice, safe, 1% return a day. This may not sound like much but since it compounds the bank each day, it grows very rapidly indeed. I started on Tuesday 24th April and my £300 bank is now at £315.71 in just five days, up to Saturday.

It’s very clever how it works. Basically, all you do is upload a pbu file to the bot each morning (or the evening before) and leave it to run. It then bets on each race until it has made your daily profit target, and it does so by laying horses, sometimes several per race, using a very safe staking plan whereby the stakes are reduced as the prices increase on the selections.

What I like about this is that the selection criteria ensures that for the vast majority of the time, you’ll hit your profit target in the first few races of the day, so you’ll see a swift growth of the bank. When you do have a bad day, however, it won’t be a catastrophe as the low stakes mean relatively small draw-downs.

I’ll be running this bot on my VPS for the foreseeable future to see how it grows my £300 bank over the year. The only drawback with this offering is John is limiting the amount of places to 250 to protect the prices on Betfair. He’s already filled 150 of those with his own members so if this is something that interests you then have a look now and give it a go.

It looks very good to me.

You can find full details here:



Filed under Betting Bots,Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham



Marco April 29, 2012 at 9:56 pm

Reading about the product description, it seems to be the old ProBot software by ProBetsUK, now in version 7.00 to manage the new S4 (“Maria”) system (above the old S1, S2, LL and S3 systems). I don’t know how the S4 will perform over the long run, but I know that it has come in place of the “Greyhounds system”, that has performed very badly and has been discarded from the authors only when they presented the S4, for the happiness of their customers that were still using it faithfully.

Graham April 30, 2012 at 12:16 pm

Yes, they are using the Probots software with the Maria Staking plan which, if you google it, you’ll see is a very highly rated plan. If you watch the videos and read the bumf, you’ll understand how this particular service works, laying horses that are not the top 4 fancied, with the Maria staking to reduce liabilities. The logic is sound, only time will tell if it performs over the long haul and, as ever, I’ll be reporting my results here throughout the year.

paulete April 30, 2012 at 2:10 pm

hi graham, i have no complaints. The greyhound system was ok but like all loss recovery plans had its up days and downs. steve of Probetsuk has surpassed himself with this system and information. i can easly make 0.5-1% profit whithout the risk of losing a precentage of my betting bank.
He also gaive me an alternative to the GreyHounds if i had wished to continue but after seeing the new plan and my bank grow the work involved wasnt worth the effort as steve pointed out when he decided the time imvolved each morning outweighed the rewards.
Macro could always enter his own greyhound information i am sure steve would advise him where to get the infomation

Marco April 30, 2012 at 7:09 pm

Hello Paulete. The problem with greyhounds was the enormous risk-to-reward ratio: a losing run was able to wipe out the bank. In fact, I don’t see the point to discard a system if it is profitable and gives even “only” a 0.5% daily. About the Maria system, we will see the Graham’s results over some months of test.

paulette May 1, 2012 at 3:26 pm

hello marco
I agree, after talking to steve the owner, he point out that system 4 has taken into account everything he has learnt about how we all apply systems.
as you said targeting small amounts on the loss recovery plans of Probot can be risky and why we have seen two fixed level staking plans added. A back system and the maria fixed liability option.
if you simply want to make 0.5% profit system4 and the ABB site often achieves that in the first race by adjusting the settings. my first matched race made me 0.95% straight away with little risk to the bank.

Probot has 5 staking plans that can be applied all at the same time. I think you have missed the point of the new system – little or no major risk to the bank balance

Marco May 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm

Hello Paulette.
Thank you for your info. I think that it is a good thing to have many systems built together. As I said, we only have to to see in some months how 3 or more loosing lays in the Maria system in one day will be recovered in the next days when they will happen (and they will happen).

Yohan May 16, 2012 at 6:37 am

This is one of the best things I have come across. They key is the selection file you load in each day. A whole heap of races are eliminated, and the remaining races have the top 4 eliminated. What is left over is the easy LAY meat.

The bot just seems to keep hitting 1% target per day very easily. It often makes 3-4 lays in the same race, and they all come in. Losses are only ever 1-2% after the end of the day.

1% a day compounded…..

Marco May 16, 2012 at 8:34 pm

Hello to all.
Below are the results for today (16/5/12) from a friend of mine, running the system in demo mode.
Start bank: 1000 ; Daily profit: 1%
A lot of winning lays in the range of 1.9 points but 3 losing ones:
14:00 York “Secret Witness”: -34.00
14:50 Ling “Ereka”: -27.30
15:55 Ling “Roserrow”: -26.88
Final P/L: -42.57
I hope nobody has suffered such a loss and that my info are wrong. If not, I think that now this system is showing already what I meant when I said: “We only have to see in some months how 3 or more losing lays in the Maria system in one day will be recovered in the next days when they will happen (and they will happen).”

Graham May 17, 2012 at 9:19 am

Hi Marco,

Yes I had a losing day too and I was down £16.07 which, considering it’s the worst day I’ve had, isn’t bad at all. I’m still at £41.17 profit on my initial £300 bank so it’s growing nicely.


Marco May 19, 2012 at 10:46 am

Hello Graham. Thank you for your info. Let’s hope that over the long run the lonely bad days will be overcomed by the frequent profit days.

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