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Laying

July 19, 2014

The Laying Game

One month into this new test and the results have turned a bit.

The place lays have performed poorly, going into negative territory and the win lays have given back to the market too:

Win Market

Bets: 476
Successful: 374
Unsuccessful: 102
Strike Rate: 78.6
Avg Odds: 5.05
Profit: £143.48

Place Market

Bets: 255
Successful: 149
Unsuccessful: 106
Strike Rate: 58.4
Avg Odds: 2.62
Profit: -£86.91

Total Profit: £56.57

I’ve been chatting with another user of this system, and also fellow reviewer on this site, Guy who suggested including a reduction factor filter on the Bet Engine so that it doesn’t bet if there are significant non-runners. This sounds like a sensible option but I will continue with the test as is so we get an accurate reflection of the results using the method ‘as described’.

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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July 14, 2014

Little Acorns

I last did an update on this neat little system in February 2013 with the following results:

2008 = +219.04
2009 = +191.68
2010 = +109.66
2011 = +134.92
2012 = +76.92

Total 5 years +749.63

Well the results for last year were no different:

2013 = 127.24 points

And every month so far this year has produced a profit, so far totalling 42 points.

This is a solid, stable betting system and one that I’ve used for years now. It makes a small but regular profit to level stakes with very small liabilities, but a much more impressive profit using the recommended staking plan.

It’s very simple to use, takes only a couple of minutes a day, and can be used in conjunction with the Bet Engine to fully automate the process if you so desire.

check out this recent testimonial:

“I have been enthusiastic about Little Acorns ever since I bought it! 

I started with a low Target and built this up to £100 per day! I do love the low liability of this laying system – Since January 4th I am showing a profit of £6074.25. This is not betting every day and when on holiday. I actually recorded the possible bets for 54 days from January 4th until June 12th, which averages £112.49 per day! I repeat, this was if I had used the system properly, if only I had!

My total winnings since April 1st 2010 is £32,084.75 starting with £30 Target. Increasing to £60 and then £100.”

You can get Little Acorns on a 30 day trial here:

http://www.cash-master.com/littleacorns.php

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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July 6, 2014

The Laying Game

Another great week for this system. The place lays made a small loss but the Win lays did very well again so overall the bank is surging ahead.

It takes about two minutes to set up each morning. I load it, click on the Scan button, and within 10 seconds it spits out the bets for the day. I save those to a spreadsheet, add a date column, and load it into The Bet Engine and start it up.

That really is it.

I’ve been betting to £10 liabilities, so on a losing bet I lose £10, and on a winning bet, I win a varied amount depending on what the odds are on the horse. I’ve been running this on both the Win market and the Place market on Betfair and here are the results after two and a half weeks:

Win Market

Bets: 249
Successful: 207
Unsuccessful: 42
Strike Rate: 83.1
Avg Odds: 5.05
Profit: £230.44

Place Market

Bets: 128
Successful: 81
Unsuccessful: 47
Strike Rate: 63.3
Avg Odds: 2.58
Profit: £67.10

Total Profit: £297.54

This software costs £59.97 for A WHOLE YEARS access.

You can get The Laying Game  here:

http://www.cash-master.com/TheLayingGame.php

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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July 3, 2014

The Lay Analyst

The Lay Analyst is one of six services offered by the Pro Betting Club and is a stand alone service offered at £39.50 a month or £89.50 for a 3 month period. A quick recap on the service –The Lay Analyst works on both UK and Irish races and covers National Hunt, All weather and Turf Flat racing throughout the year.

Selections are available online daily from 12:30 and with the password provided a simple log in takes the user to the relevant page of the daily selections. In the case of this service all selections must pass through a couple of filters utilised in the minutes before the off time to qualify as a Lay Bet. The number of points per qualifying bet is also provided and these range from 2 points up to 6 points generally and a 200 point betting bank is recommended.

The service is only suitable to a user who can be in front of a computer when qualifying races are due. On some days there can be up to 30 selections covering the period from circa 14:00 up to 20:30 so some stamina is required but there again making money does require some effort. I had hoped that a bot could be employed but at this time there is no suitable bot that can deal with the jump from filter 1 to 2, although in practice to the user, in front of the computer at the time, this stage will present no problems.

This report covers the final month of the trial from 1st June 14 through to the 30th June 14.

I had 15 selections that passed through both filters and became qualifying bets. Of these qualifiers 14 of them won for me (i.e they lost the race) and the 1 loser meant that the strike rate on the system was some 93% .

Of note during June Cashmaster put the “techies” at BetEngine in touch with the system providers to commence a trial of making the system “bot friendly”. Initial feedback is that the system does appear to be working on the BetEngine set up. This step, if it does work out, would really enhance the system as it would remove the need to be at the computer through all of the selections, checking to see which of them will pass through the 2 filters.

As previously stated in my earlier reports the actual procedure for checking whether a selection has turned into a qualifying bet is in itself very easy to do. However checking some days 30 plus selections would eventually wear a user down and almost certainly “sods law” would come into play if you missed a day, that would turn out to be the day a handful of the selections became winning bets.

So to the bank :

Opening Bank 200 points -31st May 171.75 points Close 30th June =180.70 points (net of 5% B/F comms)

Adding the monthly fee of £30 a month leaves a closing bank of some 172 points, a loss over the trial period of 28 points.

However it should be borne in mind that a 60 point loss occurred when the qualifying bet in an amatuer race got home. Please see my report for last half of May. I believe that we shouldn’t really be trying to lay horses in amatuer races and if that was removed from our results then we would have ended up over the trial period some 32 points and be looking at a 16% return.

Conclusions

This system, providing it can be set up on a bot, can potentially produce good returns on the initial investment. As the minimum staking on Betfair is £2 then a betting bank of £400 would be the minimum required.

The other condition I would employ would be to avoid amatuer races. They do not feature that often and when laying horses with this system at relatively long prices I believe this is a sensible additional filter.

So I give the system a pass if those two points are met.Approved2

You can try The Lay Analyst here:

http://www.cash-master.com/ProBettingClub.php

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Doug Wheatland

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July 1, 2014

The Simple Lay System

I’m being forced to call a halt to this trial.

I have been getting the selections from the system author, who charges a minimal £2.49 a week to send them through, which saves 15 minutes a day working them out myself.

I asked him why there have been no selections for a while and this was his response:

“Apologies a few personal issues have meant I haven’t been able to send selections as well as run other services. For the time being I won’t be able to send selections for this service, entirely up to yourself if you want to run the remainder of the trial finding selections yourself or shelf the trial.”

So it would appear that he has no interest in continuing with the review which, considering the results to date, doesn’t bode well at all. The fact that I’ve missed a week’s worth of selections already and the authors lack of interest in his own product together with the poor results leads me to conclude this is a no hoper.

Bets: 44
Successful: 25
Unsuccessful: 19
Strike Rate: 56.8%
Avg Odds: 3.26

Profit: -£89.06

This one is a simple FAIL.Failed

You can try The Simple Lay System here:

http://www.cash-master.com/TheSimpleLaySystem.php

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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June 28, 2014

The Simple Lay System

Not had any bets on this all week. Still, that probably saved me losing any more money!

Bets: 44
Successful: 25
Unsuccessful: 19
Strike Rate: 56.8%
Avg Odds: 3.26

Profit: -£89.06

It’s still going in the wrong direction.

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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June 27, 2014

The Laying Game

Ok, I have to admit, so far I am very impressed with this bit of kit.

I’ve been using it for exactly one week and it seems to be really bringing home the bacon.

It takes about two minutes to set up each morning. I load it, click on the Scan button, and within 10 seconds it spits out the bets for the day. I save those to a spreadsheet, add a date column, and load it into The Bet Engine and start it up.

That really is it.

I’ve been betting to £10 liabilities, so on a losing bet I lose £10, and on a winning bet, I win a varied amount depending on what the odds are on the horse. I’ve been running this on both the Win market and the Place market on Betfair and here are the results after one week:

Win Market

Bets: 103
Successful: 88
Unsuccessful: 15
Strike Rate: 85.4
Avg Odds: 4.93
Profit: £132.53

Place Market

Bets: 46
Successful: 33
Unsuccessful: 13
Strike Rate: 71.7
Avg Odds: 2.62
Profit: £85.42

Total Profit: £217.95

That makes a combined profit of £217.95 to £10 bets in one week for two minutes work a day.

That’s good. That’s very good.

But there’s something else I completely forgot to mention in my opening post about this software…

This software costs £49.95 for A WHOLE YEARS access. That’s fifty quid for a year! I’ve made quadruple that in profit in the first week.

Well, that’s at the moment anyway. The price is going up on this software at midnight on 30th June so if you fancy getting a years access for a stupidly low price, go and get it now here:

http://www.cash-master.com/TheLayingGame.php

Filed under Betting Bots,Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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June 26, 2014

Profits From The Turf

This is a laying service that has been running since September last year. It was proofed live on a free daily e-mail service from the middle of September until the end of January and attained an average strike rate of 90% and 230 points profit. At this point it started as a paid service.

This lays horses in the Win market on Betfair, however bets are determined by the price in the Place market.

So you log into the members area each morning to pick up the bets, but you only lay them if the PLACE price is 3.0 or less.

This is very easily set up in the Bet Engine, so bets can be simply entered in the morning and left to run.

I’d been watching this for a while and decided to start betting with my own money on Friday 4th April , betting £20 level stakes. The results initially were very pleasing, with a profit of £340 in the first week. However, it bombed after that, gave it all back and then proceeded to go further and further into the red.

I’ve called a halt to the trial on 23rd June, as the service provider mentioned he might shut down the service due to poor performance. Here are my final results:

Bets: 177
Successful: 146
Unsuccessful: 31
Strike Rate: 82.5%
Avg Odds: 7.1

Profit: -£486.73

I really disappointed how this has turned out as it had an excellent run prior to this. It may be that this service works best during the National Hunt so if it’s still going then, I’ll retrial it to see how it does.

For now, I have to put this down as FAILED.Failed

You can try Profits From The Turf here:

http://www.cash-master.com/ProfitsFromTheTurf.php

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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June 23, 2014

Profits From The Turf

Still no joy with this method.  Another couple of weeks and we’ll be three months in.

Here’s the numbers:

Bets: 175
Successful: 146
Unsuccessful: 29
Strike Rate: 83.4
Avg Odds: 7.10

Profit: -£201.68

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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June 20, 2014

The Laying Game

We originally tested, and failed, this software two years ago because although it made a small profit, it wasn’t anywhere near enough to make it a viable system.

However, things have changed. They have altered the selection method slightly and introduced some odds rules for both the win and the place markets and the results have been extremely good since it’s relaunch.

The Laying Game is basically a bit of software that you simply click one button and it scans the racing markets in a matter of seconds and throws out the bets for the day. You then bet on these selections as either a straight lay bet in the win market, with an odds criteria of 2.0-10, or in the place market with odds of between 2.0 and 4.0. You can bet to Liability so it’s therefore possible to place all your bets in one go in the morning, stipulating the odds requirements, or if you prefer, like me, you can use a bot to place the bets for you. The software allows you to export all the selections to a csv file, and the only thing I need to do to make this compatible with The Bet Engine is to add an additional column for todays date, which only takes a minute to do, then I simply load up all the selections at the click of a mouse and set it running.

The published results since relaunch one month ago on 20th May show a profit of £287 to just £10 liability staking on the win bets, and an incredible £534 to £10 liability staking on the place bets. This is using just £500 bank too, so over 100% return in one month.

It’s really easy to set up and run, especially using a bot, so I’ll be testing both the win and the place markets at £10 liability staking for each.

You can try The Laying Game here:

http://www.cash-master.com/TheLayingGame.php

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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