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January 13, 2008

Three Key Racing

Well after a very long wait we had a bet yesterday:

3.15 – Kempton – Panjo Bere (3.25) – LOST

Totals: -£34

Filed under Horse Racing Systems,Laying by Graham

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I’ve reached the end of my month long trial with the LayPro88 system, so it’s time to try to draw some conclusions from the results.  As I have actually been logging the results of the system since the 24th September, I thought it would be more useful to base the conclusions on the 3 months worth of data, rather than a single month – and, as discussed in an earlier post, I will also look at separating out Irish races to see if that has any impact on the overall outcome.

Just to remind everyone, LayPro88 is a laying system which comes with an associated staking plan. The system requires you to look at odds just before the off, so you either need to sit in front of your computer all day, or employ a betting bot to do the dirty work for you.  I have been using MarketFeeder Pro for the trial – it comes with it’s own scripting capabilities so it can be “programmed” to run a number of different systems/strategies.

The strike rate of the LayPro88 system, as the name suggests, is supposed to be about 88%. For the test, I have been using a base stake of £25 and following the LayPro88 staking plan at all times.

Looking back at the results for all races (including Irish races) gives the following picture:

Total number of bets: 503
Winning lay bets: 438
Strike rate: 87.1%
Profit/Loss: £4412.75 (176.51pts)

The predicted strike rate of 88% appears to be borne out over an extended period of time, and the profit over 3 months is very good at 176.51 points.

Excluding Irish races from the results, gives us the following:

Total number of bets: 397
Winning lay bets: 351
Strike rate: 88.4%
Profit/Loss: £4211.75 (168.47pts)

With Irish races removed from the mix, we get a slightly improved strike rate. The overall profit is slightly lower, due to the smaller number of races, but our rate of return (profit per race) is much improved.

On the face of it then, we have an excellent system with a consistent strike rate which generates excellent profits. So would I recommend it?  Well, actually, the answer is only a qualified YES – provided you understand what you are getting into!

The problem with the system is that your bank can go through a series of severe ups and downs on the way to generating that overall profit.  With a £25 base stake, I think you are looking at a starting bank of around £5000 (200 points). If you start off with a good month, then your bank will probably never be severely threatened; however, if you happen to start with a bad month, then you could be looking at a severely depleted bank. If you took November 2007, for example, a starting balance of £5000 would have reduced to £1500 at the lowest point in the month.

If you have a large bank balance, and you are happy to ride out the sometimes severe lows, then you should be able to take home a decent return. But for the smaller investor – beware.

I have two alternative suggestions if your heart can’t stand the rollercoaster ride associated with the standard staking plan:

1. Bet using level stakes. So far the system has been profitable at level stakes every month that I have been monitoring it. At £25 level stakes, we would have generated £2141 (85.65pts) profit on all races, or £1896 (75.85pts) profit if you exclude Irish races.

2. Bet to a small daily target. Like Graham suggested for the Betalay system, it may be better to just set yourself a small target profit per day (say £50 if running at £25 stakes) and stop when the target has been reached. If you do this, however, you will need to operate a different staking plan as the LayPro88 staking plan spreads it’s recovery over too many races.

Finally, as with all systems that require the odds to be monitored just before the off, you should think carefully about using a betting bot to do the hard work for you. There are many bots out there (Graham has already covered The GreyHorse Bot) – many of which can be scripted to run a variety of strategies. Betting bots are invaluable if you value your free time/sanity.

Happy New Year everyone – and here’s to a very successful and profitable 2008.

You can get LayPro88 here:

http://www.laypro88.com/grahamlaurie.htm

 

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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December 31, 2007

LayPro88

The final day of the test today, and MarketFeeder PRO (the bot that I am using for this trial) decided to throw a wobbly right in the middle of the day. As a consequence, I missed three races between 12:55 and 13:10. Let’s hope that didn’t affect the final results.

The results for today are listed below – so I’m off to do the final analysis of the test and will report back in a day or so.

Update on  LayPro88 for 31st December:

12:50 Wolverhampton Dodaa   Lost
14:35 Punchestown C’est Ca   Won!
15:25 Tramore Valhalla Vision   Lost
15:30 Uttoxeter Tago Mago   Lost

4 bets – 3 successful lays, 1 winner.

December 2007
Total number of bets: 139
Winning lay bets: 124
Strike rate: 89.2%
Profit/Loss: £1724.00 (68.96pts)

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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December 30, 2007

LayPro88

Another highly successful day – almost guaranteeing us a loss on the final day of the test (tomorrow).

Update on  LayPro88 for 30th December:

13:45 Lingfield Palais Polaire   Lost
14:15 Lingfield Harry Up   Lost
14:25 Taunton Royal Wedding   Lost
15:40 Haydock Innominate   Lost
15:50 Lingfield Esclarmonde   Lost

5 bets – 5 successful lays

December 2007
Total number of bets: 135
Winning lay bets: 121
Strike rate: 89.6%
Profit/Loss: £1722.50 (68.90pts)

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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December 29, 2007

LayPro88

We’re getting very close to the end of the test now, and we’re running just above the stated 88% strike rate, so I expect we can look forward to a loss or two to finish up the year.

Update on  LayPro88 for 29th December:

12:55 Lingfield Sempre Libera   Lost
13:10 Bangor Vitray   Lost
13:10 Limerick Spirit Run   Lost
13:50 Musselburgh English City   Lost
14:00 Lingfield Kingsgate Castle   Lost
14:14 Bangor Sullumo   Won!
14:40 Limerick Spring Vision   Lost
14:55 Leopardstown Kimberlite King   Lost
15:40 Limerick Lagganstown   Lost
20:55 Wolverhampton Western Roots   Lost

10 bets – 9 successful lays, 1 winner

December 2007
Total number of bets: 130
Winning lay bets: 116
Strike rate: 89.2%
Profit/Loss: £1599.00 (63.96pts)

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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December 28, 2007

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Yet another successful day.

Update on  LayPro88 for 28th December:

12:25 Leopardstown The Wandering Man   Lost
12:40 Lingfield Northern Desert   Lost
13:00 Leicester Orphelin Collonges   Lost
13:15 Limerick Kilcrea Asla   Lost
13:30 Leicester Mibleu   Lost
14:00 Leopardstown Emotional Moment   Lost
15:10 Leopardstown Ravens Run   Lost
15:15 Lingfield Mixing   Lost
15:20 Limerick Johnee Joblot   Lost
15:50 Limerick Macs My Mate   Lost

10 bets – 10 successful lays

December 2007
Total number of bets: 120
Winning lay bets: 107
Strike rate: 89.2%
Profit/Loss: £1433.75 (57.35pts)

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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December 27, 2007

LayPro88

Another good day as we near the end of the test.

Update on  LayPro88 for 27th December:

12:00 Southwell Gifted Lass   Lost
14:00 Wetherby Rosbay   Lost
15:20 Limerick The Bosses Nephew   Lost
15:30 Kempton Garrulous   Lost
15:50 Chepstow Quiet Bob   Lost
18:50 Wolverhampton Afton View   Lost

6 bets – 6 successful lays

December 2007
Total number of bets: 110
Winning lay bets: 97
Strike rate: 88.2%
Profit/Loss: £1196.25 (47.85pts)

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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December 27, 2007

LayPro88

A bumper Boxing Day racing card yesterday – too many meetings/too many races to keep up with! However, the good news is that we have broken the £1,000 profit barrier for the month (based on £25 stakes and using the LayPro88 staking plan).

Update on  LayPro88 for 26th December:

12:00 Sedgefield Charlie Crab   Lost
12:20 Leopardstown Bellamy Cay   Lost
12:25 Huntingdon Mortimers Cross   Lost
12:30 Down Royal Sutherland Belle   Won!
12:30 Winchester Miss Midnight   Lost
12:45 Kempton Evelith Echo   Lost
12:50 Towcester King Jack   Lost
13:00 Wetherby Hall Of Fame   Lost
15:00 Leopardstown Pom Flyer   Lost
15:15 Sedgefield Kyathos   Lost
15:20 Limerick Bonne Noels   Lost
15:25 Market Rasen Mr Shambles   Lost
15:30 Towcester Blinded Bythelight   Won!
15:35 Wetherby Kachaturian   Lost

14 bets – 12 successful lays, 2 winners

December 2007
Total number of bets: 104
Winning lay bets: 91
Strike rate: 87.5%
Profit/Loss: £1006.25 (40.25pts)

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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December 23, 2007

LayPro88

Apologies – I was travelling yesterday so was unable to get the selections/results for Saturday.

Sunday consisted of Irish racing only. 

Update on  LayPro88 for 23rd December:

14:40  Thurles               Killeen Vic             (LOST)
15:10  Thurles               Naomh Aaron        (LOST)

2 bets – 2 successful lays

December 2007
Total number of bets: 90
Winning lay bets: 79
Strike rate: 87.8%
Profit/Loss: £907.00 (36.28pts)

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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December 21, 2007

LayPro88

Update on  LayPro88 for 21st December:

12:30  Ascot                  Pantalaimon          (LOST)
12:45  Uttoxeter            First Blue              (LOST)
12:55  Southwell            Monashee Brave    (WON!)
13:20  Uttoxeter            Freddies Return     (LOST)

4 bets – 3 successful lays, 1 winner

December 2007
Total number of bets: 88
Winning lay bets: 77
Strike rate: 87.5%
Profit/Loss: £826.25 (33.05pts)

Filed under Betting Bots,Laying by Alistair Moffatt

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