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Virtual Games/Casino

December 1, 2007

Exchangegamesecrets

Hi all

Apologies for the lack of post, however I have ran several sessions of tests & bundled them altogether for this post. Here are the last few days results:-

Weds between 8-8.30pm

H2 6.7>40.5 – Hand lost – lay won +£3.80

H3 6.2>1.53 – layed £4 at 6.2 but backed at 1.53. Hand won so lay lost. -£18.68

H2 7.2>1.88 – layed £4 at 7.2 but backed at 1.88. Hand won again so lay lost. -£21.28

H3 6.15>1.69 – layed £4 at 6.15 but backed at 1.69. Hand won yet again so lay lost. -£17.84

Bank = £20.93.

Thurs 8.10pm-8.40pm

H3 9.3 > 3.14. Layed £4 at 9.3 & backed £2.66 at 3.14. Hand lost so lay part won. +£1.28

H4 5.64 > 54. Layed £4 & let lay ran (could’ve greened up of course). Hand lost so lay won. +£3.80

H4 8.05 > 25.6. Layed £4 & let lay ran (option to green). Hand lost & lay won. +£3.80

Bank = £29.91

Sat 7.45am- 8.05am

H3 7.9>32.5. Hand lost so lay won. +£3.80

H2 9.2>27.8. Hand lost so lay won. +£3.80

H3 6.1>7.8. Hand lost so lay won. +£3.80

H3 7.0>2.39. Layed £4 at 7.0 & backed £2.66 at 2.39. Hand lost so lay part won. +£1.28

Bank = £42.59

Sat  2.55pm-3.15pm

H3 7.2>74. Lay won +£3.80

H1 7.45>270. Lay won +£3.80

H4 6.55>27.6. Lay won +£3.80

Bank £53.99.

So after the disaster on Weds bank has recovered a bit but still along way to go to break even. This system has far too few bets & a few bad hands can wipe out profits quickly. Will continue running a few more tests but I don’t think many people would be carrying on with system.

Next post will be sometime next week.

All the best.

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November 28, 2007

Exchangegamesecrets

Hi all

Over the next week or so I will be running a blog for the Exchangegamesecret. I will run the tests in spells of 30 mins & will use the turbo version for the tests. In reality though it may prove too difficult to calculate & place the required stake in time for this version & the standard version would be advised.

So here we go then, below are my 1st 2 x 30 min session ran. The 1st was ran on Monday between 7.45pm & 8.15pm & the 2nd this morning between 7.15am & 7.45am. I will use a £100 bank & using 4% of bank for each lay (as advised). I will keep to level stakes rather than compounding for the purposes of this test. All profit figs include commission taken off.

Mon Evening Test 

2 qualifying games

Hand 2 - layed £4 at 6.85. Lay won = £3.80.  New fig £103.80

Hand 1 – layed £4 at 9.4. Drifted to 13.6 & greened up for guaranteed profit of £1.18. Bank now at £104.98

Weds Am

5 qualifying games

H4 layed at 9.5. Drifted to 32 so lay allowed to run. Lay dheated with one other. Calculated loss of -£17 (odds halved as dheat). Bank now at £87.98

H1 layed at 5.8. Drifted to 79 so lay allowed to run. Lay won so +£3.80. Bank = £91.78

H4 layed at 6.75. Shorted to 2.01 so back £2.66 (2/3rds of stake). Hand won so lay lost but we won a small portion on the back. Loss however is -£20.45. Bank = £71.33.

H4 layed at 5.78. Drifted to 13.1. Greened up for a profit of £1.80. Bank = £73.13

H3 layed at 7.7. Drifted to 36 so lay allowed to run. Hand lost so lay won for a profit of £3.80. Bank = £74.93.

Not a very good start at all. You also have to have alot of patience as sometimes you can go 5 hands & above with no qualifying bet. Painful stuff!

Will make next post when I have ran two more 30 min sessions. I plan to run for about another 6hrs testing, sooner if the bank gets wiped out.

Cheers 

Jason

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September 2, 2007

System Black Box

Hi all

Following discussions with Graham I have decided to finish off testing of System Black Box so below is the final couple of 2 hour sessions along with the final total profit/loss figures and my summary at the end.

Version 1

Games played = 20

Games won = 11

Profit/loss = +£2.90

Bank = £10.40

Original start bank = £50

Total hours played = 17

Overall loss = -£39.60

Version 2

Games played = 42

Games won =22

Profit/loss = -£21.60

Bank = £107

Original start bank = £120

Total hours played = 17 

Overall loss = -£13.00

 

Summary

Well the final figures I think you’ll agree are very disappointing & confirms my conclusion that this Baccarat system (using Betfair games) is no good at all in the long run. I was shocked when I originally viewed the system, I couldn’t believe it could actually have no losing days.

What suprised me even more was that on the day the original system was released (Version 1), a 3rd one was added which made me suspicious to say the least. I have tested Versions 1 & 3 as I feel they don’t give enough examples & clarity with Version 2 & it requires even more patience than System 1 & 2. 

A five year old could come up with a similar system, that’s how bad it is. Version 1 basically selects player in certain situations with 1 unit stake & Version 2 doubles up to a max of 4 times in certain situations.

With Version 1 you have more or less a 50/50 chance of getting that right, the trigger used actually doesn’t increase our chances any more, in fact the opposite is true (maybe a system there??) as is confirmed by our tests.

Version 2 can do well in patches & averages 5 to 6 pts/unit’s per hour. The problem is that a losing run of 4 (the max) loses a total of 15 unit’s so you see that you only need to get a losing streak once every 3hours to be back to square one. As you can see from the tests we struggle to win in the long run. I have spotted plenty of times prior to my testing plenty of these losing streaks ( they’re easy to spot).

I would advise no-one to purchase this system, it is a total waste of time, effort, money & loss of your sanity!! I will arrange with Graham to put in under ‘Failed Systems’

All the best

Jason

You can get System Black Box here:

http://www.cash-master.com/systemblackbox.php

 

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August 31, 2007

System Black Box

Hi All

Firstly my apologies with the delay in posting this.

I ran a couple of 2 hour tests yesterday & here are the results from both Versions:-

Version 1

Games played = 20

Games won = 6

Profit/loss = -£16.30

Bank = £7.50

Version 2

Games played = 49

Games won = 19

Profit/loss = -£29.10

Bank = £128.70

So both systems have taken a hiding, we are almost wiped out on Version 1 & Version 2 is only showing a very small profit. This is woeful really especially after playing a total of 13 hours.

It could have been even worse had I started testing by 20-30mins earlier as on two separate occassions we encountered two more losing streaks.This would have dented our bank severely & our bank would be around the £70 mark.  

With 13hrs testing done we are left with 17hrs more which I will wrap up asap & write my summary.

Next post will be by Sunday, until then all the very best.

 

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August 17, 2007

System Black Box

Hi All

The following are the results from one hours testing yesterday (Thursday) between 2.45 & 3.45pm (GMT). All results include deduction of commission at 5%.

Version 1

Games Played = 5

Games Won = 3

Profit/loss = +£1.70

Bank = £51.10 (from starting bank of £50)

Version 2

Games Played = 11

Games Won = 6

Profit/loss =  +£10.70

Bank = £86.30 (from a starting bank of £120)

A better day from both systems but still along way to go to break level on Version 2 & Version 1 has only shown a profit of 0.5 unit (based on £2 min stake) for 3 hours play.

I shall run another test today (Fri) or tomorrow & post up here Sat/Sun.

All the best

Jase

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August 14, 2007

System Black Box

Hi All

Todays methods 1 & 2 were ran between 5.43pm & 6.43pm (GMT) & here are the results:

Version 1

Games played = 5

Games won = 3

profit/loss = +£1.70

Bank = £49.40

Version 2

Games Played = 13

Games won = 5

Profit/loss = -£23.30

Bank = £75.60.

So another bad day on Version 2 system & not a great day on Version 1. If I had continued to do the test for a further hour we would have hit yet another £30 (15 unit’s lost at £2).

I haven’t explained yet but Version 2 is basically a doubling up system for a maximum of 3 times. The tests are starting to confirm my thoughts on both these systems. ie they are very poor!

Oh I would love to go on & tell you exactly what I think but maybe not just yet!

I probably won’t be around for testing tomorrow so the next 1hour test (can’t say I’m looking forward to it) will be Thursday or Friday.

Until then…..all the best

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August 13, 2007

System Black Box

Hi all

I ran an hour test using methods Version 1 & Version 2 today between 3.50pm & 4.50pm. Here are the results:

Version 1 

No of games played = 7

No of games won = 3

profit/loss (using £2 stake) = -£2.30

Start bank = £50

Bank now  = £47.70

Version 2 

No of games played = 13

No of games won = 5

Profit/loss (using £2 stakes) = -£21.10

Start Bank = £120

Bank now = £98.90

As you can see not a very good start on either system, I don’t think too many people would be happy playing an hour for these results. The next 1hr test will be either tomorrow or Wednesday.

Until then all the best

 

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August 12, 2007

System Black Box

Hi All

My name is Jason Browne, I am 36yrs old & I live in Bristol, UK. My full time occupation is as an EPOS (Electronic Point Of Sale) Support Engineer but my main hobbies & interests revolve around Football, Horse Racing & general betting systems.

The system I will be testing over the next few weeks is the System Black Box. This is basically a Bacarrat System used in conjunction with Betfair Games. A player has a choice of choosing Banker, Player or tie & the nearest to 9 over several hands wins.

The System Black Box itself is broken down into 3 Systems. Two were included in the original system but then the author added a third shortly after it’s release. In my opinion the latest system is the only one worth following though if possible I will run tests for the other two systems alongside the lastest 3rd system.

I plan to run the tests over periods of an hour though these may not be every day. However on some days I may end up running 2 or maybe 3 separate test sessions. I endevour to communicate when I plan to run my tests but as other things crop up this may not always be possible.

My aim is to start the tests from tomorrow using a bank of 60 unit’s as when we hit a losing streak (which will happen from earlier tests) the bank will not be wiped out immediately & will allow us to continue with our tests over a decent period of time.

I look forward to commencing the first 1hr test tomorrow & publishing it here tomorrow (by 9pm GMT).

All the best

Jason

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