I think it’s tine to wrap this one up as it’s more than paid it’s way and I don’t see my thoughts and feelings on it changing.
The all important profit is a very impressive £292.59 clear profit achieved from a starting bank of just £200 in 36 days of trading. Even with the purchase price deducted, that’s still over £200 in my first month whilst learning and trying to refine my approach. By the end of the month I was averaging £2.29 profit per game. I can see that figure on the excellent results sheet provided. The stakes calculator is a very good tool too. Easy to use and well thought out. Clearly this can go nowhere near the Failed pile and simply has to be added to the APPROVED list.
Why then am I not yet turning cartwheels at finally unearthing the “Holy Grail” of systems that exposes you to a limited amount of risk and makes a not insignificant profit? Well, there’s a number of reasons really.
Firstly I cannot state strongly enough how vital it is to use the members area. If you read the book and then apply what you’ve learnt to live trading you will lose money. No IFs or BUTs about it, you will fail. The problem is the match selection criteria. There are only 3 rules and 2 of them, to my mind, actually hinder you. The Liquidity rule is sensible but the 2 separate Market Price criteria mean you are looking for games that are on the whole going to cause difficulty. That is why I dislike the way the book is written so much and why any purchaser must watch the videos available. In those videos it is stressed that you should not be bound tightly by those 2 rules and the selection method is better shown in action. But I would most certainly like the match selection part to be better explained. There has been talk recently by the admin of the site that they are going to do this and I really hope they do as it would be invaluable.
It’s tricky to go into too much detail without giving the game away but the idea is that you place a Lay bet just before kick off, you then place another/more lay(s) a short period into the game before waiting for the game to change or a set time period to arrive. You then set about trading out to either lock in a green-screen profit or limit you liabilities to an acceptable level on the most unlikely of the outcomes possible.
This is where my second grumble kicks in. If things go exactly as planned you will make around £4-£8 profit and be done and dusted by half-time (or very shortly after), the trouble is (mainly due to the filters,even if liberally applied) things don’t very often go exactly to plan. Too little movement and you are going to end up with a screen showing a small potential loss and a tiny potential profit. Too much movement and you are running for cover, scrabbling to cut down and cover liabilities. This second scenario can, at times, work massively in your favour or can cause the biggest losses.
The only way I can think of describing it without spilling the beans is to liken it to trying to stand on a see-saw. You start by standing in the middle while the two ends go up and down. If you edge little to one side you will make a small profit but hardly worth mentioning, a little the other side and a small loss but nothing to worry about. If you try to get off altogether and your footing is sound you make a nice easy few quid and move on. If you try to get off and your foot gets caught then you land astride the damn thing and end up wearing novelty earrings. Ouch. Luckily this last scenario is by far the least likely and will very rarely happen but it is possible.
I really don’t want to sound too negative about this because I used real money with it and it’s more than doubled it’s starting bank, but I do want to make sure that when you buy the system that you do so with your eyes open. I was frankly lucky not to lose £20-£30 a couple of times but on the other hand I was also equally unlucky a number of times that a potential profit of £15 – £20 was turned into a break-even/smaller profit by later developments in the game. Another very positive aspect is that, apart from in extreme circumstances, you are well in control of your liabilities and can usually move them around to limit any potential damage. The average pre-match liability is around £40 mark and that drops gradually during the game by use of the in-game trades. There really is money to be made with this if you are willing to work for it and learn as you go, fine-tuning your methods with the help of the members area.
There is most definitely a certain amount of frustration to deal with. In conversation with Graham I described learning to use this system as like having an itchy spot in the middle of your back. You can reach the edge of it and get some relief, but you know that if you could just reach a tiny bit more you’d get the full benefit of damned good scratch. That frustration is kind of heightened by the diary section of the members area. There you will find a write up and screen shots of the author’s trading and it all seems so simple and straight forward that it drives you mad that you couldn’t replicate it yourself on the same games. There’s no question of these examples being cherry-picked, fudged or altered in any way. They are 100% genuine and honest and they do make sense when you look at the breakdown of how it was done in hindsight, it’s just that the author has 18 months worth of experience in using it and adjusts his position extremely well as the game progresses. From reading the comments made on the diary, a few made here by readers of this site and from looking at other websites talking about this system, it’s obvious I’m not alone in having this sense of frustration. The author and the admin of the site do make the profits they claim and do average £4 a game and I’m sure that with lengthy practice and experience anybody else using the system will too. Looking at my results sheet I can see my average profit figure increase by about 10p every 20 games roughly, so it is a learning curve.
So to wrap it all up :
Do I recommend buying this system?
YES – if you are willing to practice, learn and have time to do some evening games and some weekend games it will most certainly pay off the purchase price and provide a nice little added income. It can be used year round (obv best within big lge season) and once you get the principle it’s only going to be a case of refining your methods.
NO – if you’re looking for set and forget or dip in and out quickfire type trading or only want to do the odd game here and there. You won’t get enough practice doing that and the profit won’t be worth it. I think I did an average of 2-3 games on a weekday and around double that on weekend days. Some days more, some less and some days non at all. You do not have to take every game going and be tied to it all day, but you do have to do enough to make it worthwhile.
Is it going to Break The Bank or Make A Fortune?
Thankfully neither. You won’t retire on the profits from this but the liabilities are reasonably small and (unless betfair foul up, don’t turn the game in-play and you get really unlucky with the game too) a really bad game’s loss would be circa £25 – £30 and that would be a rare occurrence. As you will have seen from my blog entries, I made many tiny profits, a good few £5-£8 profits, several losses up to £8 and a couple of losses above that. All evening out to an average profit of £2.29 per game equating to £8.13 average profit per day of the trial. Not too bad for my first month but I’m pretty sure that will increase as my experience grows.
Is it worth the money?
Yes it is provided the support remains included. As I said at the very start, you must watch the videos as the book isn’t a good starting point.
There is a money back guarantee offered but I really would urge purchasers to stick with it and practice as you will be rewarded in the end. It is not an easy thing to master and requires you to react to changing situations but I did make money with it, even if you take out the odd lucky break I’d say it will continue to provide small profits on a regular basis.
Can you automate it?
Don’t think so. You may well be able to do something like that if you’re good with those bots that you can program with Excel, I’m an idiot when it comes to those, normal bots won’t work for this. A trading platform, like the free Geekstoy or Bet Angel Basic, would be of help at times to green up at the touch of a button. But you don’t need them as the calculator provided will do the sums for you and you then enter your trade manually.
So it certainly goes in the APPROVED list for me but I wanted to make sure you know to watch the videos, read the members area information and don’t expect to run with this before you walk through the learning curve. It should also be noted that using the system can be painfully slow going at times and cannot be rushed. I did sort of charge at it at first and found it very sticky going, that’s why we restarted after I’d spent a few days really getting to grips with it. I havn’t come close to mastering it yet but I’ve got enough of a handle on it to pay it’s way while I improve my methods.
You can get Assured Soccer Profits here:
John has been working hard on the Assured Soccer Profits site and has created a new introductory video that is well worth watching. He’s also written a new Quick Start Manual for people that may have been put off by the original more ‘comprehensive’ tome.
If you want to make a relatively easy £20 per session trading soccer matches without the roller coaster ride of normal betting system, you should get this and I would start with the introductory video:
That’s a terrific appraisal, Liam and from what little I know of it, very fair and accurate.